Temporal (Javascript's new Date-Time API) vs java.time (JSJoda on JS runtimes)

If you are involved in the manufacture of computers in Europe then you're probably already aware that your friendly local 39th technical committee has it's own toy scripting language and that language's support for dates and times is somewhat lacking (good talk on that). Well, work is currently underway to change that situation and in this post I'm going to compare the new API, called Temporal, to a similar effort from a few years back that was made for Java that resulted in a platform API called java.time.

At the time of writing Temporal (sha) is 'Stage 2' meaning it's still a work in progress. The Temporal authors have created a survey for any feedback you might have.

There is already an open issue in the Temporal github to document comparison to other date-time libs and since that has been open for a year and a half already, I thought I'd make a start at least for comparison to one other lib, java.time aka (threeten), available to the JS world as JSJoda.


I maintain a date-time library that targets both Javascript and the JVM (Java runtime), cljc.java-time.

It has the API of java.time and on JS platforms uses JSJoda under the hood.

So the value proposition is that users only need to know one API for both platforms and that the same date-time logic can be written to target either or both.

Great though JSJoda is, it is not the platform API of Javascript of course and is by necessity a pretty chunky lot of JS code. If Temporal gets implemented on JS platforms then maybe JSJoda could be implemented on top of it, or my lib could drop JSJoda and use Temporal directly.


Note: *Both Temporal and JSJoda are included in this page, so you can open your browser's JS console and paste in all of the code snippets*.

tl;dr IMO Temporal and java.time are very similar overall: they have mostly the same set of entities and there is support for going to and from the majority of ISO8601 representations). Temporal is a smaller API overall, but of course the gaps could be filled by user libraries if desired.

I start by comparing the main entities and then go on to look at some specific use-cases that I think are interesting. IOW this not a full comparison of every entity and method, but if there's something important you think is missing, please mention it in the comments at the end.

The main entities

Temporal has a subset of the entities of java.time (see table below), but the entities it does have are what I guess the authors consider to be the fundamental ones. Some names are different so in the discussion after, I'll only use the java.time entity names for clarity.

java.time Time Literal Example Temporal
Instant #time/instant "2018-07-25T07:10:05.861Z" Absolute
ZoneId #time/zone "Europe/London" TimeZone
LocalDateTime #time/date-time "2018-07-25T08:08:44.026" DateTime
LocalDate #time/date "2039-01-01" Date
LocalTime #time/time "08:12:13.366" Time
YearMonth #time/year-month "3030-01" YearMonth
MonthDay #time/month-day "12-25" MonthDay
Period #time/period "P1D" Duration
Duration #time/duration "PT1S" Duration
DateTimeFormatter n/a (NOT PRESENT)
Clock n/a Temporal.now
Month #time/month "JUNE" (NOT PRESENT)
Year #time/year "3030" (NOT PRESENT)
ZonedDateTime #time/zoned-date-time "2018-07-25T08:09:11.227+01:00[Europe/London]" (TBD)
DayOfWeek #time/day-of-week "TUESDAY" (NOT PRESENT)
OffsetDateTime #time/offset-date-time "2018-07-25T08:11:54.453+01:00" (TBD)
OffsetTime #time/offset-time "08:12:13.366+01:00" (NOT PRESENT)

//]: # | java.time | [Time Literal Example | Temporal | [//]: # |---------------------|---------------|-------------|

Entity Mismatch

Period & Duration

These entities represent a span of time which is not attached to a timeline.

java.time allows for negative spans, whereas Temporal does not yet - but looks like it will.

A java.time Duration instance stores time as an amount of seconds, for example 5.999999999 seconds.

A java.time Period instance stores amounts of years, months and days, for example -1 years, 20 months and 100 days

A Period of 1 day, is not equivalent to to a Duration of 86400 seconds (24 hours) of course, because 1 day is not always 24 hours, due to things like DST & leap seconds.

Temporal has combined these two entities into one, called Duration. Java has an equivalent entity PeriodDuration in the official addon lib for java.time.

Here is an example of adding a non-24-hour day in java.time

z = JSJoda.ZoneId.of('Europe/Berlin')
zdt = JSJoda.LocalDateTime.parse('2019-03-31T00:00:00').atZone(z)
zdtPlusDay = zdt.plusDays(1)
JSJoda.Duration.between(zdt, zdtPlusDay).toString()
=> "PT23H" (means 23 hours)

The equivalent with Temporal operation is done with LocalDateTime, then converting the results to Instants

dt = Temporal.DateTime.from('2019-03-31T00:00:00')
dt2 = dt.plus({days: 1})
z = Temporal.TimeZone.from('Europe/Berlin') 
z.getAbsoluteFor(dt2).difference(z.getAbsoluteFor(dt), {largestUnit: 'hours'}).toString()
=> "PT23H" (means 23 hours)

Year, Month & DayOfWeek

Temporal just uses numbers where java.time would use these entities. Like java.time though, numbering starts at 1.

Partly this may have been done because you don't get the same compile-time checks with JS, but also I would guess this makes Temporal more easily work with other calendar systems. I imagine when working with non-Gregorian calendars in java.time one could avoid using Month and DayOfWeek.


This entity represents a point on the timeline, in a place, an example being


Temporal can parse that same string to an Instant, but it loses the zone/offset info


In place of this, we can create objects containing a zone and either an Instant or a LocalDateTime.

There is a draft proposal for ZonedDateTime in Temporal

OffsetTime & OffsetTime

I've never had a use for OffsetTime, so let's skip over it.

OffsetDateTime functionality is contained within ZonedDateTime, so I'm not considering it separately.

Interesting Examples

I am going to look at how to achieve various use-cases with both APIs, choosing examples I think are interesting.

Calendar-aware time conversion

Instant is not aware of calendars (e.g. DST, months, leap seconds etc), it's just a straightforward amount of nanos since an arbitrary point in time. One of the major noob java.time question topics stems from not being aware of this. For example trying to print the day of the month from an Instant doesn't work unless you provide a zone, or trying to add a year to an Instant - that kind of thing.

Java.time refers to this topic as human vs machine time whereas Temporal refers to entities as being 'Calendar-aware' or not, which seems a more self-explanatory definition.

Going from calendar-aware to Instant (non-calendar-aware) can involve disambiguation. For example on a DST change, a wall-clock time can happen twice (the clocks 'go back') or not at all (the clocks 'go forward').


Here is an example of where we have a wall clock time that doesn't exist in a zone and are converting it to a ZonedDateTime. See how we input the hour as '2', but it comes out as '3':

z = JSJoda.ZoneId.of('Europe/Berlin')
=> "2019-03-31T03:45+02:00[Europe/Berlin]" (which is Instant "2019-03-31T01:45:00Z")

Temporal docs section on resolving ambiguity

Temporal has the same default behaviour as java.time, but you can choose other options:

tz = new Temporal.TimeZone('Europe/Berlin');
dt = new Temporal.DateTime(2019, 3, 31, 2, 45);
tz.getAbsoluteFor(dt, { disambiguation: 'earlier' }); // => 2019-03-31T00:45Z
tz.getAbsoluteFor(dt, { disambiguation: 'later' }); // => 2019-03-31T01:45Z
tz.getAbsoluteFor(dt, { disambiguation: 'compatible' }); // => 2019-03-31T01:45Z
tz.getAbsoluteFor(dt, { disambiguation: 'reject' }); // throws

A similar example would be finding out the wall clock time of when a day starts - it's not always midnight!

Here we find out that the day starts at 1 a.m.

z = JSJoda.ZoneId.of("America/Sao_Paulo")
=> "2015-10-18T01:00-02:00[America/Sao_Paulo]" 

I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to do the same in Temporal ;-)


Since Instant isn't aware of calendars, you can add or take away seconds, but not months or years.

What about days though? As I said, a day is not 24 hours, but wrt Instant, Temporal treats it like it is:

Temporal.now.absolute().plus({ months: 5 }); // fail - as expected
Temporal.now.absolute().plus({ days: 5 }); // no fail - days in this context means 24 hours

In fairness, so does java.time, so both APIs are consistent on this

=> "PT24H"


Example of truncating a java.time Instant to whole hours

=> "2020-07-30T21:00:00Z"

Although Temporal has facilities for Rounding using the with method, this just works on the fields a Temporal object has. Since Instant only has nanos field, it doesn't have a with method, so to achieve the above we go via a calendar aware object:

z = Temporal.TimeZone.from('UTC')
dt = z.getDateTimeFor(Temporal.Absolute.from("2020-07-30T21:29:54.697Z"))
rounded = dt.with({minute: 0, second: 0, millisecond: 0, microsecond: 0, nanosecond: 0 })
=> 2020-07-30T21:00Z

Parsing & Formatting

java.time has DateTimeFormatter, which is used for converting to and from any string representation.

Temporal doesn't have an API for parsing, although there is an issue .

For printing, Temporal provides some facililities via toString - see here, and Intl.DateTimeFormat, as in this example

Accessing Properties

There is no direct equivalent of java.time temporal package in Temporal at present.

You can access the fields of entities though, for example:

=> 31 


Temporal and java.time are fundamentally similar. Temporal has a smaller API and possibly that results in something that's easier to learn, but results in more verbose code. Personally I value ease-of-learning much more.

Date-time logic is just like math: you can type stuff in and you'll get answers... but are they the right ones? Have you got a type system that will let you know that you got it wrong? (please let me know if you do!) But it's not like math because it's fundamentals are way more complex... so I just want to know one API and know it really well. Because of that I created a date-time library to target both Java and Javascript.

So, of course I would have been happy if proposal-temporal had just decided to copy java.time! Well, they haven't, but that's not a show-stopper for lib by any means. It's great that Temporal is happening at all and hopefully will make it's way to our browsers and other JS runtimes in the near future.

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Published: 2020-08-02

Tagged: clojure java date-time javascript